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HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:38 pm
by Steve Milbocker
As I've stated before I have a real soft spot for the target bows of the golden age. After getting the 65 Tamerlane from Dick I'm damn near pocessed by them. Can anybody tell me what if any differences there are in the way they shoot? I can't imagine the newer models could be any smoother than the Black Beauty. I've been eyeballin a 68 and was just curious.

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:54 pm
by Jett
Steve - Think I was eyeballin' the same ones on the 'bay. Whole lotta stuff going at fairly decent prices now that I can't afford them, LOL!

Never shot either of these but would like to. Bet George has (he's shot/owned about everything!)

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:31 pm
by KODIAK
I've been watchin that 68 too. It's a beaut.

Can't say for sure on the shootability. I'd imagine they are similar but I will say that the later 60s Bears have cruder, blockier tips than the early to mid 60s varieties. Not sure specifically about the Tamerlane though. More "mass" production in play I'd assume.

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:33 pm
by George D. Stout
I owned an HC-300 but not the HC-30. Mine had the micarta riser with rosewood caps like the 68 and 69 Super Kodiaks.
It was 66" and 42# and quite a shooter. It was fast, but not nearly as smooth as the Hoyt Pro Medalist I traded it for.
:D

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:40 am
by Steve Milbocker
That 68 that we are all eyeballin has been cut past center. He did a nice job on it but that would affect collector value wouldn't it? Kodiak, they did have blockier limb tips,I noticed that too. George, the 65 I have is just like liquid,0 hand shock, but then it feels like it weighs 12# too :lol: That Hoyt must be quite a shooter. I'd like to shoot an HC 300 before I stick my neck out on one. The 68 were looking at, the reserve is 275. Anybody going for it?

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:31 am
by kbel5
I have a hc 300 in the line up for refinishing.
If your not in a huge hurry Steve, its in bad shape, but shootable
It looks like somebody spray painted finish on it, runs, orange peel.
Thats how I get them cheap, I buy f#cked up ones and refinish
I'll send you this one to try out.
Just take care the shipping.
Kurt

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:47 am
by Steve Milbocker
Are you fixing it up to sell? By the time I pay shipping both ways I'll have 60 bucks in it, I may as well invest that in a purchase. Thanks for the offer Kurt.

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:12 am
by KODIAK
Steve, no I'm not going to bid on it. Usually I just like to watch. :P

It's a very nice looking bow, but imo a $275 reserve for an altered and refinished 68 Tamerlane is a little on the high side. Not horribly high, but a little. ;) But no ones opinion should sway your decision on bidding on a bow or not. Ultimately all of us are different and willing to spend more on certain bows that we really like and MUST have. :P

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:04 am
by kbel5
Kodiak nailed it, nice work, 275 for a bow that will shoot for years is a decent deal,but not a collector for most.

Steve no, not for sale, I add to my wall with the ones I get cheap. ;)
I don't have many untouched bows that might bring a premium, most are good models that needed a face lift.

Bow Doc and Droptine's work probably will retain a lot of their value, for return on investment, you pretty much have to stick to untouched bows.

The mid 60's Polars with the yellow limbs, are a sweet shooting target bow you can still find fairly cheap.

I feel like I'm watching the real estate market a few years ago, some of those bows are just going for to much money, I don't think they will get their money out, if that's what they want.

Re: HC30 vs HC300

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:10 am
by George D. Stout
My thoughts on the HC-300 is that it is fast and starts the draw heavy or heavier than some other bows. The limbs are short in comparison to the long riser and that will give quickness, but not as much smoothness as a more deflexed model.
The HC-300 has a pretty much crisp shot pocess; meaning it is very taut at full draw and releases from the hand/fingers abruptly. In my opinion, it moves too much on the shot/aftershot....not because it doesn't have enough mass, but because of the geometry (my opinion only and not to be considered accurate 8^)). That is the reason I said I was happy to make the trade for the Hoyt Pro Medalist. Now that is a bow that will open your eyes to the all around quality of a good target bow.