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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby BK in TEXAS » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:11 am

I've really been struggling this week thinking about the tips.
Heck, I'm making tips for the official pirate "tipmaster" here.
So...with that in mind, this bow will have no tips.
Here ya go...good luck stringing it :D :

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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby BK in TEXAS » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:22 am

Crap...just read the swap rules....has to be strung. So tips it is. I had some fancy ideas in my head that I've never tried before. After a LOT of thinking I decided to play it safe. I'll experiment on one of my own bows.

.09" Rosewood over .08" Phenolic tips. I clamp them together and pre-grind one end to facilitate blending into the limb.
I need them to bend a bit to conform to the limb so I don't pre-glue them.

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Dry-run clamped to the limb. I had to use 2 hands to get these suckers bending enough. Good to go.
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I only want to mix up smooth-on once so I do the riser overlays at the same time. Rough out 11" of the glass behind the riser. I forgot a picture of the dry-run, but I always do one to be sure they lay flat.
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Popsicle stick in the drill to mix up some smooth-on. Easy cheesy. BUT if you get any on the tip of your drill you REALLY should clean it off right away with soapy water if you plan to ever use the drill again.
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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby BK in TEXAS » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:26 am

Here is what we have:

Tips.
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Riser overlay. I use equal clamps on each side so the edges don't bow up. Been there, done that.
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I also pre-angle the bottom overlay and wipe off the bow-snot squeeze out to make it easier to blend in.
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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby 4nolz » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:57 am

acetone cleans up excess smooth-on too,I wipe all the excess as soon as possible.
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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby Apex Predator » Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:44 pm

Looking great brother! Just about exactly the way I would have done it.
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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby Ben » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:25 pm

Making tips for the "tip master"-------------the pressure is on ;)
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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby BK in TEXAS » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:40 pm

Apex Predator wrote:Looking great brother! Just about exactly the way I would have done it.


Yep....reviewed your "tip-along" from awhile back
http://www.piratesofarchery.net/bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6655&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20
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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby BK in TEXAS » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:57 pm

I cold cured the overlays for 24 hours, and they are good to go. Apex wanted it 62" so I mark the end of my fades, and double check they are the same distance from the bow's center. They are, so I measured 31" from the center and marked the overlays.

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I love this little gadget. I'm sure there is a name for it but I have no clue what it is. Anyway, set the thing to 40˚ and marked both sides of the nock. I didn't get pictures of filing the nock, it's pretty much your typical chain saw file job.
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Put on a string. This string is a couple inches too short, braced at 9.5". But I'm really looking for right now is limb twist, and a draw weight. Looks darn good to me, at least it does in person....the camera seems to throw some funny shadows on it.
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I forgot to get a picture on the tiller tree, but whoa boy....this sucker is 52@20. I won't draw it past 52 but I'd estimate it would work out to 70@28. Looks like I've got some trimming to do, and a little heavier trapping.
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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby Apex Predator » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:36 am

Hey Bob, I can handle more weight. Don't kill yourself getting it too light. As long as you can get it down to 57-58@28, It will be fine.
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Re: Bow Swap Build for Apex

Postby BK in TEXAS » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:55 am

BK in Wisconsin wrote:Nothing real exciting tonight. I got the lams ground to size and the glass taped up. She goes in the oven tomorrow.

.050 glass
.099 canarywood .002 taper
.126 hickory core
.099 canarywood .002 taper
.050 glass
.424 total stack

This is a little less stack than I think I need, but on my last bow this hickory core seemed to add 6# to the draw weight so......


I guess it turned out to be plenty :roll:


Apex Predator wrote:Hey Bob, I can handle more weight. Don't kill yourself getting it too light. As long as you can get it down to 57-58@28, It will be fine.


Marty...I'll get it down to 52-55 @ 27" for ya. I was worried about being too light, so I left the tips .655". I still have several pounds of weight that'll come off there. It's also only trapped to 25˚, so I'll trap it down to 30˚ as well. With the longer riser and your draw length I can even make the limbs a bit more parabolic without any worries. She might get down to .450" or even .400" tips, but it'll get done. It's also .05" glass, so as a last resort I have plenty of belly thickness.
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